MightyGersLand!
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That's the best you came up with after comparing board members of a fans group, to Martyn Waghorn?Elevating MM into King territory is bonkers.
That's the best you came up with after comparing board members of a fans group, to Martyn Waghorn?Elevating MM into King territory is bonkers.
I have well over half the ridiculous number of members I need to call for a GM
Need some more boys and girls
How could King protect his investment? Murray had full control. He could have kept it in his pocket, that's it.King failed to protect his investment or the club during David Murray's time at the club.
He failed again to stop us falling into the hands of parasites.
So I don't really get your analogy.
Plus. Thats 2 failures and ultimately one of our greatest off field successes afterwards, for the club.
MM is trying to use his experience to help a fan group.
Not to get back in the door of Ibrox in a position of power.
From the OP:-I cancelled my subscription on hearing Rev McQuarrie had resigned from the board some months ago(Through FF).
Would my details be of any use Robert? I was only a £5 a month subscriber for a few years. I now put my spare cash to Rangers Lotto.
You mean like when MM and Walter Smith were put in there as the face for the fans as Rangers men, with no control?How could King protect his investment? Murray had full control. He could have kept it in his pocket, that's it.
Correct only a moron would slag a supporter who invested £20m lost it then came back to help oust the Spivs.How could King protect his investment? Murray had full control. He could have kept it in his pocket, that's it.
they weren’t “put in there” Walter tried to help and left because he had now control. Malcolm hung in because he loved the blazer. You’re views on DK are moronicYou mean like when MM and Walter Smith were put in there as the face for the fans as Rangers men, with no control?
Thanks. For confirming my point.
We'll played Sir.
If you say so.they weren’t “put in there” Walter tried to help and left because he had now control. Malcolm hung in because he loved the blazer. You’re views on DK are moronic
thanks for confirming that
Well player Sir
It’s a big clique actually , it’s all sensible Rangers supporters……obviously that rules you outIf you say so.
Read what I typed. I only see one thing moronic, and it's you and your wee clique.
No. It's not. You're a spoiled little kid.It’s a big clique actually , it’s all sensible Rangers supporters……obviously that rules you out
You've put it better than I ever could.This is the thing that drives me nuts on here. I disagree with the wife sometimes, I disagree with my best mates. I disagree with people that work for me and I disagree with the people I work with. Very rarely are my aims at odds with those people’s and never ever do I wish them ill.
For some reason, when it comes to Rangers, many people seem too eager to defend the indefensible because they have aligned themselves to one actor or another. Or they find fault in every action and every word from someone merely because they have taken a side in a perceived divide.
I might see your proposal and disagree with some of the detail of it. And I‘d say so. But I’ll respect your motives and won’t be shy in agreeing with those aspects I do agree with. Likewise, I don’t mind anyone telling me they disagree with me. But do it respectfully and try to convince me that you’re right and I’m wrong. That’s how the world should work.
I think the thread is meant to be about getting an AGM arranged.You've put it better than I ever could.
As you can clearly see.
Too many little girls on here, need a villain and a hero.
Whether the hero is themselves with their head so far up their own arse. Or Dave King who for all his great work for Rangers, has never as much as jaywalked in some star struck eyes.
Or the Villian is a poster with an open mind or a flawed director paying electricity bills, now turned devil on earth.
I think the thread is meant to be about getting an AGM arranged.
Here's the thing. The Constitution of Club 1872 calls for the directors to hold a General Meeting once a year - although it doesn't specify any agenda items. So, by hook or by crook a GM will be held but in view of the revelations of Reverend MacQuarrie it beggars belief that anyone would object to a General Meeting.I'm sitting here in disbelief.
If you are going to back a GM. Or EGM (but probably not an AGM) yet allow everyone against it to start calling people morons every second post, I struggle to see what you hope to achieve?
Cheers ColinFrom the OP:-
If you have recently stopped contributing to Club 1872 can you PM your name and number and the reason you have left.
I cancelled a few months ago and PM’d my details to Robert.
He stepped down as chairman because it was the consequences of his battle with the takeover panel.Why would Dave King leave the actual board of Rangers to try and take control over a fan group? It can't only be about selling his shares surely?
Spot on, a Club1872 with 200k members paying £1 a week would provide an easy £2m net for share purchasing. Then make the rasion d'être of the organisation raising funds thru events, collections and challenges to fund more share purchases.Said it from the word go. The organisation should have been set up to attract tens of thousands of members and not purely a share buying enterprise. Its no surprise to me that less than 10k people joined.
We could have had one of the largest organisations in the UK with 200,000+ members. That gives you real political clout and might even make the bigots in the media and elsewhere think twice before attacking us. Instead we have an organisation that's powerless and irrelevant.
Yes, I have well over half of the number they have imposed and I'm working on the rest.Any updates of any progress @Robert Marshall ??
I would think with the right people in charge getting 20000@£5 a month would be achievable in the first 12 monthsSpot on, a Club1872 with 200k members paying £1 a week would provide an easy £2m net for share purchasing. Then make the rasion d'être of the organisation raising funds thru events, collections and challenges to fund more share purchases.
I think you should revise your numbersSpot on, a Club1872 with 200k members paying £1 a week would provide an easy £2m net for share purchasing. Then make the rasion d'être of the organisation raising funds thru events, collections and challenges to fund more share purchases.
Is 200,000 people paying a pound a week not equal just over £10m per year?I think you should revise your numbers
Nope, low cost high membership. A club with 50k season ticket holders must have a few times that globally. But, even with your 20k x 5 it’s £600k net before fund raising.I think you should revise your numbers
Thanks RobertYes, I have well over half of the number they have imposed and I'm working on the rest.
My hope of having five professional people to make up a temporary Board is just about complete, I have four people ready to put their names forward.
I think it may take another month to get everything in order.
Hopefully, the three Directors will realise that their positions are untenable and resign, saving any more bad publicity for Club 1872
If they care about 1872, the Fans, the Club and indeed their own reputation then they will resign and help insure a troublefree changeover
£200000 x £1per week x 52 weeks is £10.4m a year£1Nope, low cost high membership. A club with 50k season ticket holders must have a few times that globally. But, even with your 20k x 5 it’s £600k net before fund raising.
The present model isn’t inclusive, it needs to be.
Yes, £10.4m to be exactIs 200,000 people paying a pound a week not equal just over £10m per year?
Getting 200000 people to sign up is the hard part, no matter the low cost.Nope, low cost high membership. A club with 50k season ticket holders must have a few times that globally. But, even with your 20k x 5 it’s £600k net before fund raising.
The present model isn’t inclusive, it needs to be.
You will never get 200000 to sign up, IMOGetting 200000 people to sign up is the hard part, no matter the low cost.
£200000 x £1per week x 52 weeks is £10.4m a year
20000 x £5 a month x 12 is £1.2m a year, a very easy and realistic amount to raise expanding it month on month to we reach 50000 fans worldwide. works out £3m a year and very affordable for most fans
I think when RST and RF joined together it was about 14000, not positive but that number sticks in my mind20,000 seems ambitious but it really shouldn’t be give them size of our fanbase
I don’t know why the club haven’t ever set up a scheme like this, nothing attached other than the satisfaction knowing your £ is going directly to the club
What’s Chris’s area of expertise, profession?Well I can only speak for myself, but when we started RF it cost our family £12K in expenses over the 18/24 months that it took to get it sorted
I never took a penny in expenses from RF, none of us did
My problem with Chris is the way he has operated, being paid to basically run Club 1872 from the Shadows while not declaring it to the members
Sitting in meetings which he had no right to attend unless invited by Club 1872, and if he was why weren't the members told
I have never really bothered about being popular but I would have done the job for nothing, but not in the background
Club 1872 have been guilty of covering up Chris's involvement and the fact he was paid by a third party, it's irrelevant who paid him, the problem was and is that they hid it from the members
We are Rangers, there should be no limit to our anbition20,000 seems ambitious but it really shouldn’t be give them size of our fanbase
I don’t know why the club haven’t ever set up a scheme like this, nothing attached other than the satisfaction knowing your £ is going directly to the club
Someone said he was a Financial Consultant.What’s Chris’s area of expertise, profession?
Professional parasite ?What’s Chris’s area of expertise, profession?
It’s really important that this meeting takes place. You don’t need to do anything apart from sending Robert your name and membership number. When I think of all the time and effort put into the RST and RF and, in five years, they have lost a significant number of members and income and have managed to decrease their percentage shareholding. Something needs to happen.
That’s really sad given how supportive you have been in the past.The Founders Trail cancelled its membership months ago.
Totally disillusioned.