I recently had correspondence from Tom Devine on a recent matter. He was the only one who replied back to me. In the correspondence and his reply, he spoke of a minority on both sides, never singled one over the other. Blamed drink as an accelerant.
What i gathered from his response to me, was that some, like the people being discussed. Use a minority element to highlight their own cause. When in actual fact it is just that, a minority element, and that scotland as a whole does not have a widespread sectarian problem.
That is it 100%. They hate Rangers and anyone who supports Rangers. It’s like hating all Muslims because of some extreme nutters. They are everything they profess to hate.Why does she have to infer Rangers in her hatred for the Orange Order? Whilst I'm sure there will be Rangers fans that support this group I'm also sure there will be individuals who have no connection whatsoever to Rangers FC.
I seem to notice that she and her like don't seem to think there's such a thing as irish protestants, as that's what they obviously mean as they go on about anti irish racism that there seems to be in scotland. So in their eyes the irish protestants who came here are not irish.Anyone who opposes in word or deed the right of Irish Protestants to publicly express their heritage and religious heritage on the streets of Glasgow is both a racist and a sectarian bigot.
I am sure I read something along the same line from Devine - I think it was in the Herald after the George Square celebrations.
Not sure if this is a daft idea or not but has anyone at H&H @David Edgar thought about inviting Tom Devine onto their show to talk openly about sectarianism in Scotland? If we can line up a few questions for him from our perspective and get his take on it, it would be very interesting to hear.
It would be important to let the guy freely share his views even if some of what he says is not to our liking. By doing that it would show we are Aye Ready for an open two way sensible discussion on the issue instead of only presenting one side of the story like Dornan, Humza and their CIO buddies do.
I think this would be a great next step after the exposing of daily record journalists.
Their school system is 100% sectarian. Scrap this and see what happens 20-30 years down the line .I recently had correspondence from Tom Devine on a recent matter. He was the only one who replied back to me. In the correspondence and his reply, he spoke of a minority on both sides, never singled one over the other. Blamed drink as an accelerant.
What i gathered from his response to me, was that some, like the people being discussed. Use a minority element to highlight their own cause. When in actual fact it is just that, a minority element, and that scotland as a whole does not have a widespread sectarian problem.
Minister Brendan Griffin said: “I was pleased to meet leading tourism industry representatives in Belfast today and to visit Titanic Belfast. It was wonderful to hear about the success of tourism and I can see why increasing numbers of tourists are visiting Northern Ireland. Congratulations to colleagues in Tourism Ireland and Tourism Northern Ireland on the record performance to date.The Irish Tourism Minister, Brendan Griffin, an Irish Roman Catholic and resplendent in bright Orange tie, enjoys the 12th of July celebrations.
Tourism Minister Brendan Griffin visits Belfast
Tourism Ireland is responsible for marketing the island of Ireland overseas as a holiday destination.www.tourismireland.com
The crackpots in Glasgow whimpering about the Orange Order are an irrelevance to real Irish people.
What is there a walk on Rothesay because this is where she comes from.She once told a story that when she was a wee girl and would hear the walk coming up the road she'd run into the house terrified and hide.
My mother is from Southern Ireland where there was an orange hall at the end of her street. I have many family members there…again all church of Ireland = Protestant. More in the south than what people think, but yes majority is Catholic. How many people from either side actually believe these days anyway? I’d hasten to say it’ll be more in the older generations. It’s become more tribal than religious in my opinion.Irish folk are lovely in my experience. Many Celtic fans especially in Scotland who identify as Irish can only think of Irishness in terms of Catholicism. NI protestants are not Irish by their mad logic. Yet they refer to us as Nazis and the Klan.
Yes this is their party line, celebrating our culture automatically means we are attacking them in their demented minds.Anti-Catholic marches?
The sprouts are clearly frozen and bought from Iceland. They look a mushy mess! Lazy cow!“So, Rangers fans were marching through the city centre singing the Famine song. That's pretty bad, right?
Well, let me tell you something worse.”
Worse than that dinner you cooked ya hatchet faced bint?
Her foaming gashShe's foaming at the gash awaiting a reaction to this
Tom Devine is a Hypocrite, he may have said about both sides being in the minority. However when it comes to his comments, it’s a One Way denouncing of anything Unionist/Presbyterian Values!More people like him need to come out more often and publicly challenge the narrative set by agenda driven MSPs, the media and bigoted groups like Call It Out and their patronising pish.
If he doesn't do it of his own accord then we can offer him a platform to challenge this false narrative on H&H if the lads were in agreement that it was something they would like to do.
He is right - Scotland is not a sectarian country.
Tom Devine is a Hypocrite, he may have said about both sides being in the minority. However when it comes to his comments, it’s a One Way denouncing of anything Unionist/Presbyterian Values!
He is also an ugly basturt
I brought this up the other day but for whatever reason Admin binned the thread.Don't want to derail the idea of getting the views of Devine or Tomkins, however I'm trying to find the right place to share the following with everyone. Does anyone know why "Bella Caledonia" is showing such a strong interest in FF and H&H?
In this one, the author Mike Small reveals who Hoggy is married to. Why?Banging the Drum
The connections between the Loyalism and Labour are legion. Now, as Rangers FC face a barrage of criticism for their appalling handling of their fans most recent behaviour, they also face scrutiny …bellacaledonia.org.uk
Here Mike Small asks is @mdingwall a member of the Labour Party?Who’s Zoomin’ Who?
Yesterday we published about an overlooked aspect to the most recent Rangers debacle, the close ties between Scottish Labour and Glasgow Rangers. It’s not a subject we thought we’d be r…bellacaledonia.org.uk
Phil 4-names was the author of this one. Enough said.Racism, Rangers and the Fourth Estate
From a distance all of this looks dangerously unpleasant. Black shirted youths marching through the centre of Glasgow with what looked remarkably like a police escort. Moreover, the young men were…bellacaledonia.org.uk
A search of the BC web site reveals several anti-Rangers articles.
Whilst it's easy to say it's best to ignore them, I don't think it was fair to bring Hoggy's family into their article that discussed the DR's 'report' on H&H.
That is a fxxking disgrace.Don't want to derail the idea of getting the views of Devine or Tomkins, however I'm trying to find the right place to share the following with everyone. Does anyone know why "Bella Caledonia" is showing such a strong interest in FF and H&H?
In this one, the author Mike Small reveals who Hoggy is married to. Why?Banging the Drum
The connections between the Loyalism and Labour are legion. Now, as Rangers FC face a barrage of criticism for their appalling handling of their fans most recent behaviour, they also face scrutiny …bellacaledonia.org.uk
Here Mike Small asks is @mdingwall a member of the Labour Party?Who’s Zoomin’ Who?
Yesterday we published about an overlooked aspect to the most recent Rangers debacle, the close ties between Scottish Labour and Glasgow Rangers. It’s not a subject we thought we’d be r…bellacaledonia.org.uk
Phil 4-names was the author of this one. Enough said.Racism, Rangers and the Fourth Estate
From a distance all of this looks dangerously unpleasant. Black shirted youths marching through the centre of Glasgow with what looked remarkably like a police escort. Moreover, the young men were…bellacaledonia.org.uk
A search of the BC web site reveals several anti-Rangers articles.
Whilst it's easy to say it's best to ignore them, I don't think it was fair to bring Hoggy's family into their article that discussed the DR's 'report' on H&H.
100% bang on.I seem to notice that she and her like don't seem to think there's such a thing as irish protestants, as that's what they obviously mean as they go on about anti irish racism that there seems to be in scotland. So in their eyes the irish protestants who came here are not irish.
, your getting mixed up with your Number 3, it’s the “let’s inherit the Sheena Easton accent for no apparent reason!”
1) What on earth is she on about?
2) Sounds like she’s inflaming a situation that doesn’t exist
3) I had no idea she spoke with a Glasgow uni accent
Maybe it was in remembrance for IRA HAYES , the American Indian who went to war that Johnny Cash sang about .What was the Pro IRA march at the weekend all about.
Its 2021 for gods sake!
A trouble making cow trying to cause trouble .She’s the definition of a female covert narcissist.
Attention seeking,pity plays,entitlement,always the victim,a hypocrite,a liar,devoid of genuine empathy,disingenuous - the full works.
There's the biggest problem right there -
What’s this Captain tag she has given herself all about ?
1) What on earth is she on about?
2) Sounds like she’s inflaming a situation that doesn’t exist
3) I had no idea she spoke with a Glasgow uni accent
Rather than Call It Out, these fellows look like your average angry middle aged Celtic fans.
you couldn't get a pretty more stereotypical looking group of tramp fans if you tried
In Ill Phil's hate filled piece spotted this in the comments. Last couple of sentences nail them but by Christ there is so much hate in others. They live with us.Don't want to derail the idea of getting the views of Devine or Tomkins, however I'm trying to find the right place to share the following with everyone. Does anyone know why "Bella Caledonia" is showing such a strong interest in FF and H&H?
Phil 4-names was the author of this one. Enough said.Racism, Rangers and the Fourth Estate
From a distance all of this looks dangerously unpleasant. Black shirted youths marching through the centre of Glasgow with what looked remarkably like a police escort. Moreover, the young men were…bellacaledonia.org.uk
A search of the BC web site reveals several anti-Rangers articles.
That Colin Robinson in the comments section in the first article makes some good points.Don't want to derail the idea of getting the views of Devine or Tomkins, however I'm trying to find the right place to share the following with everyone. Does anyone know why "Bella Caledonia" is showing such a strong interest in FF and H&H?
In this one, the author Mike Small reveals who Hoggy is married to. Why?Banging the Drum
The connections between the Loyalism and Labour are legion. Now, as Rangers FC face a barrage of criticism for their appalling handling of their fans most recent behaviour, they also face scrutiny …bellacaledonia.org.uk
Here Mike Small asks is @mdingwall a member of the Labour Party?Who’s Zoomin’ Who?
Yesterday we published about an overlooked aspect to the most recent Rangers debacle, the close ties between Scottish Labour and Glasgow Rangers. It’s not a subject we thought we’d be r…bellacaledonia.org.uk
Phil 4-names was the author of this one. Enough said.Racism, Rangers and the Fourth Estate
From a distance all of this looks dangerously unpleasant. Black shirted youths marching through the centre of Glasgow with what looked remarkably like a police escort. Moreover, the young men were…bellacaledonia.org.uk
A search of the BC web site reveals several anti-Rangers articles.
Whilst it's easy to say it's best to ignore them, I don't think it was fair to bring Hoggy's family into their article that discussed the DR's 'report' on H&H.
Well well well thats actually enough for a criminal conviction in Scotland.
He is associating entities here isn’t he , Rangers and Scottish Labour among them . Then today it was the Janey and Nicola affair lol . Mike Small’s work has aged well then hahahaI brought this up the other day but for whatever reason Admin binned the thread.
The local RC primary school in Giffnock implemented RC children only 3 years ago. They had to abandon the rule as the Muslim parents complained. If they had a faith school why not the Muslim children. Now the school is multi faith again.Their school system is 100% sectarian. Scrap this and see what happens 20-30 years down the line .
What we have here is narcissistic wounding because things didn’t go her way hence the outburst of fury mixed in with the pity play and the gaslighting.
Is that Gary Glitter bottom right.
you couldn't get a pretty more stereotypical looking group of tramp fans if you tried
Is Ill Phil the failed social worker or am I thinking of somebody else?Don't want to derail the idea of getting the views of Devine or Tomkins, however I'm trying to find the right place to share the following with everyone. Does anyone know why "Bella Caledonia" is showing such a strong interest in FF and H&H?
In this one, the author Mike Small reveals who Hoggy is married to. Why?Banging the Drum
The connections between the Loyalism and Labour are legion. Now, as Rangers FC face a barrage of criticism for their appalling handling of their fans most recent behaviour, they also face scrutiny …bellacaledonia.org.uk
Here Mike Small asks is @mdingwall a member of the Labour Party?Who’s Zoomin’ Who?
Yesterday we published about an overlooked aspect to the most recent Rangers debacle, the close ties between Scottish Labour and Glasgow Rangers. It’s not a subject we thought we’d be r…bellacaledonia.org.uk
Phil 4-names was the author of this one. Enough said.Racism, Rangers and the Fourth Estate
From a distance all of this looks dangerously unpleasant. Black shirted youths marching through the centre of Glasgow with what looked remarkably like a police escort. Moreover, the young men were…bellacaledonia.org.uk
A search of the BC web site reveals several anti-Rangers articles.
Whilst it's easy to say it's best to ignore them, I don't think it was fair to bring Hoggy's family into their article that discussed the DR's 'report' on H&H.
She is an absolute disgrace
I think it's her rank in the PIRA.What’s this Captain tag she has given herself all about ?
Yes this is their party line, celebrating our culture automatically means we are attacking them in their demented minds.
They will never stop coming after us until they achieve their end goal of ending the Orange order.
I do find it strange that the ROI PM and tourism board have no problem with the Orange Order and herald it’s carnival atmosphere but Scottish Nationalists want to “consign it to the bin”.
Do you blame him for no eating much after seeing the nick of the Xmas dinner his sister made?As my auld gran would say, that sleekit looking boy needs a guid feed.