Does seem that way .... seems to fans of most clubs are now doing it but the media per usual highlight rangers... if a provincial club does it it's a joyous carnival that creates an atmosphere but if rangers do it it's dangerous....Amazing how it’s always rangers fans in pictures of media pieces.
Does it matter? Should any football fan go to a game and run the risk of being burned by phosphorus?are there any numbers on how many people have been hurt/injured or even killed by them at football games?
Come on now, that's not part of the debate.Part of the debate that is getting missed is why is it ok for event organisers to have them for example the pre match flame throwers at the league cup final on the pitch close to fans but not ok for fans to have them?
Just imagine those flame throwers malfunction or wind blows the wrong way and there will be thousands injured with severe burns.
If it’s a ban it should be a total ban and no pyro fireworks etc. allowed.
There is no real facilitation across the continent though. Apart from one or two countries it's used in exactly the same way it is here.I just don't understand the fascination people have with pyro but that's purely personal. If they have to do it a continental style facilitation is the only answer. Organised, risk assesed, timed.
Like it or not, if someone gets hurt the club could be liable.
There is no real facilitation across the continent though. Apart from one or two countries it's used in exactly the same way it is here.
One argument I hate is "it looks better in (insert Eastern European country)" despite it being the exact same products used. If you like it or think it's acceptable in one place then you must think it the same here.Yeah, it's just the idea of clubs taking steps to protect themselves that I was meaning.
Not sure I'd trust the club with that all the same!
One argument I hate is "it looks better in (insert Eastern European country)" despite it being the exact same products used. If you like it or think it's acceptable in one place then you must think it the same here.
Yes, granted up to a point, I did a bit. I’ll do a bit of wriggling by way of clarity. I loved the Clyde show and some other large scale displays. What turns me right off, is just random clumps of smoke belching in all directions, just for the sake of it.Rather sweeping statement there. Taking your view and applying it to the wider support.
I for one really enjoy when the UB have an organised Pyro display. The 15th anniversary one was brilliant and many if not most around me had their phone out videoing, which tells me others like it too.
We’ll still take them into consideration though?
I think that's fair.One argument I hate is "it looks better in (insert Eastern European country)" despite it being the exact same products used. If you like it or think it's acceptable in one place then you must think it the same here.
Well, no actually.Probably looks better to some just because of the volume of people involved.
I agree, if you think it's okay for unsanctioned pyro in Poland then the "It doesn't work here" thing falls kinda flat.
I love them too.Love Pyros at the fitba and I'm an old man.
That's not what I'm saying, man. Far from it.Well, no actually.
Just because it’s right to do something in one place doesn’t mean it is right somewhere else.
Armed Police in the US is essential due to criminals having guns doesn’t mean we should be arming British police.
On topic, maybe Poland doesn’t have the same approach to health and safety that the UK does.
Maybe Poland doesn’t have the same approach to litigation as in the UK.
Goes to show how dangerous it is but doesn't really show you how it started. Everything can be dangerous in the hands of people with... no sense.
I’d be shocked if some rangers flags haven’t got burn marks on them, I know that people have previously complained about jackets having bomber burns in them. Personally think people holding the pyro should be a row or 2 back from the front to ensure no flags are burnt and give people the heads up so they can move along a bit to avoid any of their clothes getting burnt
Someone lit some sort of firework thing on Saturday, it shot out green pellets, hit the ceiling of the stand before falling down on someone.
I'm all for pyro but Saturday's attempt was lame AF.
Yeh it does but as an asthmatic with copd if I got caught up in all that it would probably cause an attack and I might not survive it but I can always stay in the house.Like the larger organised displays, think it looks brilliant.
I think it's a mix of doing it at the front of a stand so it doesn't fall on people or using a thing called 'cold flares'.I don't think I know what safe pyro is.
I get it's ' safe' but how safe is safe?
I've only ever stood next to a few flares getting left off at Hampden and I struggled with breathing and the sparks managed to burn a hole in my jacket ( not expensive but now in the bin because of it)
And I've see some have jackets ruined by the dye/smoke ( but no idea what kind of flare caused that).
Looks spectacular when you're on the outside looking in mind you.
We are all super ally !
Yeah got to agree my daughter loved it I’ve no problem with it tbh.I was in amongst it in the West Stand on Sunday and it was absolutely brilliant. Smiling faces all around and added to the sense of occasion.
Personally I like it. Just my opinion.