charlie_snowball
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Maybe it's his Greek birthday or something or whatever the argument was
Maybe it's his Greek birthday or something or whatever the argument was
Can you actually articulate a response that can explain why you disagree with me or is this all you can say because actually, you've been talking nonsense?OK then.
Interesting.Not really! I know we have been looking at players and it was indicated that we had hoped to have signings made last week that for one reason or another haven't been concluded.
Names, positions etc are unknown to me. I'd suggest if we knew/expected Aribo was leaving a replacement for him would have been targeted.
Sounds like every thread on the loungeAribo deal is worth £6m, shambles. Nah it's worth £10m, it's a good deal. Naw, it isnae. Aye, it is. Naw, it isnae. Aye, it is. Naw, it isnae. Aye, it is. Naw, it isnae. Aye, it is. Naw, it isnae. Aye, it is. Naw, it isnae. Aye, it is. Naw, it isnae. Aye, it is. Naw, it isnae. Aye, it is. Naw, it isnae. Aye, it is. Naw, it isnae. Aye, it is. Naw, it isnae. Aye, it is.
Pointless replying to him mate, he’s the most negative poster on here. You could go into a thread full of birds scuds and he’d still be moaning about the shape and size of their tits. Absolute weapon of a guy.Since 2012 we’ve lost more than £100 million. I’d suggest all of that money and more has been spent on the team, just not all in a single transfer window. Were you asleep when we were repeatedly told that investment would be front loaded and then we would work a trading model? We front loaded and never traded for 4 seasons. I know that level of money appears to be meaningless to some but for those who have put it up I think taking a prudent approach to running the club is more than appropriate. People talk as if we don’t have a wage bill to service. Money isn’t going to shareholders, it’s all in the club being spent, what’s hard to understand about that?
Spot on, some absolute crackpots on this thread.In the space of 6 months we'll have pulled in potentially around £28 million in transfer fees, with only one of those sold a first pick who was in the last year of his contract. Yet we have folk who probably, like me, can barely run a current account shouting about how incompetent the club are, lunacy.
Folk have wanted a player trading model, this is it, yet there is still people acting hysterical.
Aw man this place is excruciating.
Just pack the forum in. It's run its course.
Yup, work to do now. I'm hopeful that this has been in the pipeline for a good couple of weeks and we've got something lined up already. That is how it should work.For me, with Aribo away, we are RW and an attacking mid light for these qualifiers. Aribo could’ve played either of those roles and would’ve been a definite starter if he was here. Work to do.
Seville Calculator not got that function?We are trying to decide how you calculate someone's age from their DoB.
Jordan is sound. Sure, he annoyed people with his tweet a while back about his reporting on an issue we were linked with, and the response to it, but overall, he's an ally of ours in the media and he does a good job at it.
People so often want blindly-loyal partizans fighting our corner, sometimes even our own fan media should be critical and even cynical about the actions of our team. It's healthy, even if it's in error. We have to allow him the room to probe tough topics.
Thought I saw it in one of his early tweets last night but can’t find it now mate. Might have got confused with Romano. Now catching up with later reports from The Athletic saying a sell-on clause might be a possibility so it’s clearly still a ‘moving feast’ on what the deal could actually turn out to be.Where did Ornstein mention £6m?
We have targets in mind already.
What would a direct replacement for Aribo be though? We may look to target one aspect of his role rather than replace the player, if that makes sense.Interesting.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t sign a direct replacement for Aribo.
Just an opinion, not been told anything
A pen?He’ll be flying to Portugal
The club took over equipment in case of new signings
I agree we should be getting the £10m up front but unfortunately for us we could've lost Aribo for free next season and clubs know this. Man City have a lot of clout in transfers and aren't scared to knock back an offer from a club.Nah we're getting £6m up front for one of our best players who's just scored in a European final. We may be getting add-ons but these will be dependent on appearances and other caveats which are not guaranteed. Meanwhile same club is paying Man City DOUBLE for a player who's played two cup games in his entire career.
Some folk like you are absolutely dying to defend everything we do because you're such a bigger and better fan than the rest of us, that's great.
I call it as I see it. The boy is worth a lot more than his release clause, so we should AT LEAST be getting the £10m up front.
To accept only £6m upfront is bad business. Call me names and insult my intelligence all you want, it doesn't change what it is.
Internet is always accurateGood to see everyone losing their shit because one man said £6m on the internet.
£6m with it reaching £10m over time with the addons and a sell on would not be bad business.
Calm the %^*& down.
Players are only worth what the offer is though.Nah we're getting £6m up front for one of our best players who's just scored in a European final. We may be getting add-ons but these will be dependent on appearances and other caveats which are not guaranteed. Meanwhile same club is paying Man City DOUBLE for a player who's played two cup games in his entire career.
Some folk like you are absolutely dying to defend everything we do because you're such a bigger and better fan than the rest of us, that's great.
I call it as I see it. The boy is worth a lot more than his release clause, so we should AT LEAST be getting the £10m up front.
To accept only £6m upfront is bad business. Call me names and insult my intelligence all you want, it doesn't change what it is.
You think a striker is our biggest priority?
Would far rather sign a CB, CM or RW personally.
The reason we aren't getting 10M up front is clearly because we feel we have agreed a better overall deal by taking less up front with add ons/sell ons. Not rocket science.Nah we're getting £6m up front for one of our best players who's just scored in a European final. We may be getting add-ons but these will be dependent on appearances and other caveats which are not guaranteed. Meanwhile same club is paying Man City DOUBLE for a player who's played two cup games in his entire career.
Some folk like you are absolutely dying to defend everything we do because you're such a bigger and better fan than the rest of us, that's great.
I call it as I see it. The boy is worth a lot more than his release clause, so we should AT LEAST be getting the £10m up front.
To accept only £6m upfront is bad business. Call me names and insult my intelligence all you want, it doesn't change what it is.
Hopefully get them in asalWe have targets in mind already.
Yeah, I get what you mean due to his ability in a number of roles.What would a direct replacement for Aribo be though? We may look to target one aspect of his role rather than replace the player, if that makes sense.
Kalvin Phillips is 27 is December.Why not just take the £10m upfront and be done with it?
By the time Aribo would be in any position to be sold on again for any sizable sum, he'll be 27, which makes the likelihood of it even happening less likely.
The fees coming in to the club are encouraging but they have to be used to make us a better team and also bring in the next batch of players who fit into the ‘model’ and that we can look to develop & sell on. We can’t stop here with it.In the space of 6 months we'll have pulled in potentially around £28 million in transfer fees, with only one of those sold a first pick who was in the last year of his contract. Yet we have folk who probably, like me, can barely run a current account shouting about how incompetent the club are, lunacy.
Folk have wanted a player trading model, this is it, yet there is still people acting hysterical.
Short term financial thinker? Christ you should work in parliament mateYou’re a short term financial thinker. It seems very likely we are getting most paid up front, the rest in instalments (most transfer are done this way) and the most important part…the profit sell on percentage fee.
You are right, Aribo is worth more than 10 million but he is in the last year of his contract. Mane went to Bayern for 27mill plus 8mill of potential add ons. LESS then Man United signed Amad Diallo for (37 million). Who is worth more?
It’s a very rare thing for me, and it worries me greatly, but for once - and probably just the once - I find myself agreeing with your generally pessimistic take on things.Not how I read it
Usually deals are announced as the full fee (even if paid over 3/4/5 years)
Most reports seem to indicate £6m fee that could rise to £10m based on add ons (such as appearances etc) with a significant sell on fee
Kalvin Phillips is 27 is December.
He’s just been bought for £45m.
Possibly in terms of creativity and goals but not in terms of physicality at this pointWe’ve got a replacement in the club for Aribo already and he cost 0. Lowry
He was very good against us too.£1.8m for a striker in his peak years who has an absolutely brilliant injury record and another 4/5 years left in him.
Stop moaning
Lol, hope it comes true but big expectationsCannot wait to see that handsome bastard Colak with our strip on and a scarf above his head.
The Govan Giroud is going to be a sensation for us next season, feel free to bookmark this and re-visit next year.
But with a couple months left till the window shuts, why are we caving in as soon as the offer comes in? Why couldn't we at least try and play hardball? What message does that give to other clubs sniffing about Morelos and Bassey?I agree we should be getting the £10m up front but unfortunately for us we could've lost Aribo for free next season and clubs know this. Man City have a lot of clout in transfers and aren't scared to knock back an offer from a club.
It was a case of take the best offer we can get as we cannot afford to lose a huge asset on a free.
He's 26 in a few weeks and 27/28 year olds don't tend to move for that much money unless they're top drawer.
Since 2012 we’ve lost more than £100 million. I’d suggest all of that money and more has been spent on the team, just not all in a single transfer window. Were you asleep when we were repeatedly told that investment would be front loaded and then we would work a trading model? We front loaded and never traded for 4 seasons. I know that level of money appears to be meaningless to some but for those who have put it up I think taking a prudent approach to running the club is more than appropriate. People talk as if we don’t have a wage bill to service. Money isn’t going to shareholders, it’s all in the club being spent, what’s hard to understand about that?
Can't agree with that. He will just be entering his prime at that age and could easily command a big fee if he impresses at Southampton.
Chris Wood just got sold for £25M at the age of 30.
It may be the right side we prioritise. Hopefully it will be.Yeah, I get what you mean due to his ability in a number of roles.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t sign another number 10, is what I meant.
My absolute priority is a right winger, anything after that is a bonus for me.
Leave them to it Tags - Most are scared of what their celtic supporting pals will say about it.In the space of 6 months we'll have pulled in potentially around £28 million in transfer fees, with only one of those sold a first pick who was in the last year of his contract. Yet we have folk who probably, like me, can barely run a current account shouting about how incompetent the club are, lunacy.
Folk have wanted a player trading model, this is it, yet there is still people acting hysterical.
But we clearly haven't accepted that - why would we?!Short term financial thinker? Christ you should work in parliament mate
Actually the correct description would be risk adverse. We should absolutely not be accepting what is essentially a guaranteed £6m and a possible further £4m for a player of his calibre, especially when the buying club can comfortably afford it.
What do you mean finished he’s only 28He's 28, Jordan.
Because teams don't usually pay big money for players after 27/28...
Nah we're getting £6m up front for one of our best players who's just scored in a European final. We may be getting add-ons but these will be dependent on appearances and other caveats which are not guaranteed. Meanwhile same club is paying Man City DOUBLE for a player who's played two cup games in his entire career.
Some folk like you are absolutely dying to defend everything we do because you're such a bigger and better fan than the rest of us, that's great.
I call it as I see it. The boy is worth a lot more than his release clause, so we should AT LEAST be getting the £10m up front.
To accept only £6m upfront is bad business. Call me names and insult my intelligence all you want, it doesn't change what it is.
But there's months left of the transfer window? Clubs will come in with their lowest offer obviously. We should be holding out at least.Players are only worth what the offer is though.
You say he’s worth more than his £10m released clause, if no one offers £10m then sadly the reality is he’s not worth £10m.
You thinking he’s worth it means nothing if the offers don’t come in.
It's been said a million times that Gerrard was promised money by the board at the end of our 55 season. Money that was never spent.
If we're genuinely potless after the season we've just had then we're a lot worse off than I thought.
Sane went for £45m, hes 30Kalvin Phillips is 27 is December.
He’s just been bought for £45m.
Nice to see Robertson and Wilson share a login.We’ve got a replacement in the club for Aribo already and he cost 0. Lowry
We have accepted it? Unless you've read something to the contraryBut we clearly haven't accepted that - why would we?!
If we have accepted less up front it's because we think we will earn more than 10M overall.
Aw man this place is excruciating.
Just pack the forum in. It's run its course.
Clubs know we can't play hardball and there's no point keeping a player who's made up his mind he wants to leave.But with a couple months left till the window shuts, why are we caving in as soon as the offer comes in? Why couldn't we at least try and play hardball? What message does that give to other clubs sniffing about Morelos and Bassey?
Paying 99p for a 99 is a bad deal if you drop the ice cream.£6m with add-ons is ridiculous for a player like Aribo. If the deal is structured that way and he picks up an ACL injury in his first game for Southampton those add-ons might never be paid.
If it's £6m upfront with £4m in installments over months or years that's dreadful as well get the whole £10m up front or no deal.
The happy clappers will defend anything this board or Wilson do cause they think it's perfectly acceptable for a club like Rangers to be skint even after a European final with record turnover.