davstr
Well-Known Member
Yes he didThe referee was shit but didn't cost us the game. The manager and players did.
The players were shite, but they’d have been playing against 10 men most of the game
Yes he didThe referee was shit but didn't cost us the game. The manager and players did.
Yes he did
The players were shite, but they’d have been playing against 10 men most of the game
It was BeatonesqueWasn't as bad as beaton. But that doesn't say a lot.
We should have the personnel given the money we spent.Who said it was an magnificent achievement?
We hardly have the personnel to chop and change without actually weakening our side
I didnt think id ever see a worst performance than Beatons, today was far worse, this is not a coincidence, its premeditated application of different rules for us.
Simple fact is, we couldn't stop Motherwell scoring 2 goals. We also couldn't score with numerous opportunities.Yes he did
The players were shite, but they’d have been playing against 10 men most of the game
Last man challenge on Morelos, not given
Morelos booked for persistent fouling after 2 challenges
Bowman on a yellow, breaks a players nose with another elbow, nothing
And to be fair:
Alves should have been off.
Two blood injuries and both times doesn’t stop the game
I’ve never seen a performance that inept before.
I don't get up to many games, but was up for the Aberdeen game last season and McLean was reffing it. There were numerous decisions, all against us that i just couldn't fathom, including their forward bringing the ball down with his hand over his head leading to a goal, and neither McLean nor his linesman saw it (I don't actually believe that part). I don't believe for one moment that refs are not cheating us. The only time we seem to get a decision in our favour is when it's too late to affect a game, like the Alves foul today. And actually it is better when our player is booked as the compliance officer that Sutton is keen to get involved cannot punish our players. I like many other fans have been watching Rangers for years and have never seen refereeing like it.So just rubbish.
Not just this game, but every time he referees one of our games
Fair enough
Totally agree with this as it was a shocking performance from the referee although it doesn't take away from the utter abysmal performances from Windass and Gullit.
Your first quote was "He was poor but that isn’t why we lost the game. Alves should have been off the park also"How can you possibly say that? You don’t know why Alves did what he did. He has a history of crazy tackles, only need to see his challenge on Harry Kane I think it was in a friendly against England last year.
Regardless, the point is I would rather look inwardly at what we did wrong and how to improve, you want to blame others....and you made reference to others being poet like.
In Pena you can see a player. His quality of goals shows that. In Jack, we have a waste of space. Holt shoud never have been dropped for him. How anyone can say he has been sensational for us beggers believe.To be honest I think Dorrans was worse than both them, with Jack not far behind but then the two you mention are the first whipping boys
Your first quote was "He was poor but that isn’t why we lost the game. Alves should have been off the park also"
I will end discussion with you there.
In Pena you can see a player. His quality of goals shows that. In Jack, we have a waste of space. Holt shoud never have been dropped for him. How anyone can say he has been sensational for us beggers believe.
We should have the personnel given the money we spent.
He might beHis failure to stop the game at the head knock(s) should see him demoted.
no not having that.. it was barely a push, the player decked it.(I think) Herrera pushing a player over in the melee.
Your first point stands in the fact the refs poor decisions did not have an affect on the game? Really? Motherwell should have been down to 10 me after about 20 minutes and then 9 after Morelos was hacked down. How does this not affect the game?First point stands, he should have been off. The point of yours I was responding to was when you said if ref had sent off Motherwell players then Alves wouldn’t have did what he did. Which is nonsense.
That i,m afraid is very true.The refs decisions don’t cover up how CRAP our performance was.
So his goals were not quality?Quality?
In Pena?
You're kidding yourself.
Bar 4 goals he has done nothing
His touch is poor, his effort is non existent, he doesn't look to get involved in moves and doesn't link with Morelos.
Your first point stands in the fact the refs poor decisions did not have an affect on the game? Really? Motherwell should have been down to 10 me after about 20 minutes and then 9 after Morelos was hacked down. How does this not affect the game?
No, they were tap ins.So his goals were not quality?
Misrepresenting what you said? You said..." He was poor but that isn’t why we lost the game. Alves should have been off the park also"There you go again misrepresenting what I said. I said we lost the game because we couldn’t deal with the situations that arose. I would rather look at what we are doing rather than blame others.
Let’s leave it at that.
Was there contact?no not having that.. it was barely a push, the player decked it.
Aye ok mate. All tap ins for an attacking midfied player.%^*& me, you are clueless.No, they were tap ins.
Done well to be in position.
Misrepresenting what you said? You said..." He was poor but that isn’t why we lost the game. Alves should have been off the park also"
So we did not lose the game due to inept refereeing
That is total bullshit and dont try and kid on it is not... That was your words. The words i disagree with.
I always thought other teams tried harder against us,but the fact is they get away with the referee not doing his job.NOW IS THE TIME FOR THE BOARD TO BACK PEDRO AND GO AFTERTHE REFS AND THE SFA OR GET US OUT OF SCOTLAND
Simple fact is, we couldn't stop Motherwell scoring 2 goals. We also couldn't score with numerous opportunities.
The ref affected the game but he did not cost us the game. A poor performance did that.
I do think our referees are a disgrace but lets face the facts. Our players and manager aren't good enough. The most expensive of which the manager has brought in simply isn't going to work.
We're out of two competitions to lesser teams. We can't string a run of results together. Refs aren't causing that, our manager is.
I am not agreeing to disagree with anyone. Your comment that it was not the refs poor performance had nothing to do with us getting beat is just pure and utter garbage. You think we would not have won that game if they were down to 10 men after 20 minutes or 9 after the Morelos incident?Let’s agree to disagree as you seem unable to acknowledge the fact that we should have enough about us to rise above it and win the game. That’s how I see it.. you would rather play the blame game.
I am not agreeing to disagree with anyone. Your comment that it was not the refs poor performance had nothing to do with us getting beat is just pure and utter garbage. You think we would not have won that game if they were down to 10 men after 20 minutes or 9 after the Morelos incident?
Answer the fucking question and stop yawning like a stupid wee boy.Yawn.....
Let's face it there's not a lot of big changes he can make with HIS team.
There are a lot of players at Rangers.
Probably more than the Motherwell manager has to draw on, and hopefully more of better quality.
So weakness of squad is maybe an excuse against The Filth, but it doesn't wash in a match against Motherwell.
Now you can chase me all day if you want about what team I would or wouldn't have picked, but the short of it all, is that I don't spend all week on the training ground with the players, and I don't have eight hours a day to study our opponents.
Further who do you reckon Dave King will be pissed off with tonight over team selection and failure on the park, Pedro or me?
Take your time.
Today's ref cheated today and has cheated us in the past. It's over, we can't do anything to win big games. They simply won't allow it.
Jesus H Christ.
We are being systematically cheated but hey just ignore that and blame everyone else
If we plaŷed well today that lady's front bottom would’ve found a way to get us beat