High Society
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But we don’tWe might if we have teams from other nations along with us and TV deal and sponsorship in hand.
But we don’tWe might if we have teams from other nations along with us and TV deal and sponsorship in hand.
Partick got relegated 2pts behind with a game in hand and 9 to play ffs! What planet is the lady's front bottom on?Found that statement incred
Found that statement incredible. So those teams have been shafted but Hearts and PT haven't.
I take his point on the change at the top and anything is better than what we have just now, but honest to god, the hipocrasy is Just mind boggling
Another Judas who’s denied his upbringing and thrown his lot in with a mob who will ditch him whenever they’ve done with him. Him and that skunk Gray at Hamilton, Burrows at Motherwell make me sick.For a guy who was a player, assistant manager, general manager and managing director at Thistle, Ian Maxwell is a scumbag of the highest order... I know we all knew anyway, but what an ungrateful rhat.
The game up here is utterly f.ucked, beyond corrupt. It will take years for things to change. This is all to the benefit of one club.
If the truth is exposed, there must be a major chance they will be FORCED to resign via a vote of no confidence mate.
That’s the hope. It’s also why, to me, they are desperate to avoid the truth.
No chance, sheep and Hibs would follow suit I'm sure, we could then call out Hamilton, m'well for being happy to side with a corrupt cabal, the house of cards would soon come crashing.If we had an English membership lined up then I’d be all for it but unfortunately we’d be laughed at if we resigned with no league to play in. We’d also last a few months and probably be bust.
Hearts and PT legal teams should be chapping Lord Clark’s door in the morning asking his view point
Nobody is convincing me that there wasn't something very badly wrong with that dundee vote. Hearts have been granted the power to discover exactly what happened around that issue, the spfl clearly did not want to open that particular door. SFA are also clearly implicated in this via their cosigned letter containing blatant lies to UEFA, hence they are now attempting to get Hearts and PT to piss off... I doubt it will work.Unfortunately Lord Clark correctly pointed out that they had signed up to the SFA arbitration process and he sent them packing. The only realistic hope Hearts and PT have now is that the arbitration finds in their favour or they can subsequently prove the arbiters themselves act in a biased, unfair or prejudicial manner (unlikely given they are to be drawn from the legal profession with 10 years advocacy or sheriff court experience), which would then allow them to go back to Lord Clark.
The SFA have ‘technically‘ done nothing wrong in invoking their disciplinary procedure, it’s stated clearly in section 99. Unfortunately sporting bodies have massive powers and their rules are written in such a complex manner to ensure they have all bases covered. When you join them you are signing up to their articles and in this case the SFA articles as well. If you didn’t have these powers with sporting bodies then every sporting dispute would end up in court.
The main hope for Hearts and PT still comes in the form of the Rangers dossier and other supporting evidence that the Dundee vote was bent and presenting that to the arbitration panel. This is the key evidence. Before it went back to a judge there would have to be evidence the panel themselves acted in an unfair and prejudicial manner. This is what Clark was warning them about. The panel aren’t going to feck up their legal careers to save Neil Doncaster. Clark insisted they had legal men not football men on the panel. The SPFL haven’t won this yet, despite the efforts of the SFA to apply pressure by the timing of their disciplinary hearing.
Wouldn't be holding my breath on thatIf, when this utter shambles comes to a conclusion, Rangers resubmit their demand for a full independent inquiry surely, but surely, there needs to be support for it now. Quite clearly the authorities running Scottish football are either an absolute clusterf*ck of incompetence, or corrupt to the very core.
Nobody is convincing me that there wasn't something very badly wrong with that dundee vote. Hearts have been granted the power to discover exactly what happened around that issue, the spfl clearly did not want to open that particular door. SFA are also clearly implicated in this via their cosigned letter containing blatant lies to UEFA, hence they are now attempting to get Hearts and PT to piss off... I doubt it will work.
Have we tried?But we don’t
I admire your positivity on the subject ,the current set up which has limped from disaster to disaster for years has so far been untouchable just ignores things it doesn’t like .That will depend on the findings during arbitration. From the outside the voting, the lobbying of Uefa and the threats to clubs all looked very dodgy. If an independent panel agree and set relegations aside then the devil will be in the detail. Resignations may follow.
Who’s going to force them ,they are a law unto themselves ,Doncaster should have been forced out the door years ago but he’s still there bumbling along as if he’s the perfect man for the jobIf the truth is exposed, there must be a major chance they will be FORCED to resign via a vote of no confidence mate.
That’s the hope. It’s also why, to me, they are desperate to avoid the truth.
They are both incompetent and corruptIf, when this utter shambles comes to a conclusion, Rangers resubmit their demand for a full independent inquiry surely, but surely, there needs to be support for it now. Quite clearly the authorities running Scottish football are either an absolute clusterf*ck of incompetence, or corrupt to the very core.
A shitebag placeman from the word go, he was put in the job because he would offer no resistance and would do as he was told.For a guy who was a player, assistant manager, general manager and managing director at Thistle, Ian Maxwell is a scumbag of the highest order... I know we all knew anyway, but what an ungrateful rhat.
I think he covers the Current situation perfectly.We have a live one here.
I presume he was being fascicious.Why would Hearts/Thistle choose Fat Rod. Or any Dhims?
I don't see any rush to start the season anyway.Last throw of the dice to keep the details of what went on out of the public domain.
Let's hope Lord Clark sees through this and orders the whole thing back to court.
It will be worth the wait for the season to start to get rid of these bastards once and for all.
You are aware that Hearts and Thistle were demoted after a rigged vote and the fixtures not being completed? To that end, all the "rules" are oot the windae and the SFA can ram their charge right up their corrupt arses.Because the SFA rules state ( as mentioned in the charge) that it has to go to arbitration. The court agreed, which is why it went that way.
Now yes Hearts got documents etc that they might not have got otherwise, but they've just received this charge which could cost them dearly.
I won't link because of the obvious but pretty much word for word
I'd also be questioning whether they were charging Dundee hibs & Co too, they've also gone to court against Hearts n thistle, same rules apply?
Who’s going to force them ,they are a law unto themselves ,Doncaster should have been forced out the door years ago but he’s still there bumbling along as if he’s the perfect man for the job
I don't see any rush to start the season anyway.
If the corruption is allowed to carry on, what would actually be the point in playing?
We're in a competition that we aren't allowed to win. The longer Hearts and Thistle drag this out, the better our chance of winning on the pitch.
Regarding the the no confidence vote Iv heard 50pc being said a few times recently and I hope that’s true because early on in this whole saga I’m sure I heard it was 75pc ,Cant remember who it was but they were critical of that level being in the rulesMy hope is that they can be forced to resign via a vote of no confidence.
When this starts to cost these other clubs money then the 30% or so clubs with us
previously will grow.
And I THINK the vote of no confidence only needs 50% ?
Regarding the the no confidence vote Iv heard 50pc being said a few times recently and I hope that’s true because early on in this whole saga I’m sure I heard it was 75pc ,Cant remember who it was but they were critical of that level being in the rules
Even 50 pc is going to be hard considering the board are guaranteed votes from the clubs each individual comes from
What do you want us to do?Rangers silence is disappointingly deafening.
What do you want us to do?
Sitting back saying "We told you so" sits fine with me as the game continues to tear itself apart.
Meanwhile..................Doncaster, McKenzie and MazLennan still in post?
It's what the clubs seem to want.............
The thing is grigo is trying to get the numbers to get the vote of no confidence.My hope is that they can be forced to resign via a vote of no confidence.
When this starts to cost these other clubs money then the 30% or so clubs with us
previously will grow.
And I THINK the vote of no confidence only needs 50% ?
The thing is grigo is trying to get the numbers to get the vote of no confidence.
Unfortunately Lord Clark correctly pointed out that they had signed up to the SFA arbitration process and he sent them packing. The only realistic hope Hearts and PT have now is that the arbitration finds in their favour or they can subsequently prove the arbiters themselves act in a biased, unfair or prejudicial manner (unlikely given the chair is to be drawn from the legal profession with 10 years advocacy or sheriff court experience), which would then allow them to go back to Lord Clark.
The SFA have ‘technically‘ done nothing wrong in invoking their disciplinary procedure, it’s stated clearly in section 99. Unfortunately sporting bodies have massive powers and their rules are written in such a complex manner to ensure they have all bases covered. When you join them you are signing up to their articles and in this case the SFA articles as well. If you didn’t have these powers with sporting bodies then every sporting dispute would end up in court.
The main hope for Hearts and PT still comes in the form of the Rangers dossier and other supporting evidence that the Dundee vote was bent and presenting that to the arbitration panel. This is the key evidence. Before it went back to a judge there would have to be evidence the panel themselves acted in an unfair and prejudicial manner. This is what Clark was warning them about. The panel (chair) isn’t going to feck up a legal career to save Neil Doncaster. Clark insisted they had legal men on the panel. The SPFL haven’t won this yet, despite the efforts of the SFA to apply pressure by the timing of their disciplinary hearing.
What would you suggest....Have we tried?
Do we just sit back and accept current circumstances or do we try to find an alternative?
he didnt send them packing. He made a ruling against the 3 clubs for a start. He suggested the SFA rules may be unenforceable and he made the 3 clubs pay their own legal costs
Here,s hoping mateYes, I just think that the detail from this case becoming public is vital to that TB. That's
why they fought to keep it from court in my opinion. To stop our dossier claims being
shown to be true.
If they get out there, i'm very hopeful mate. And, allied to a lot of these clubs losing out
on the money to square up Hearts & Thistle, that should be a winning combination.
They'll be proven as corrupt, but corrupt & costing clubs money by their corruption.
The tipping point.
Yes, it will, but as every day passes & these imbeciles bring our game down, hopefully
coupled with their lies & corruption being confirmed, i'm hopeful.
@Valley Bluenose - am I right that it's 50% needed on a vote
of confidence ? You are normally 'the man' on this stuff.
Thanks VB . So they will want the most obstructive vote type to apply .B*stard. You set me off for another half an hour wasted trawling through the Articles of Association. To no avail I'm afraid. As per usual, it comes down to whether it would be an Ordinary Resolution, a Written Resolution, a Qualified Resolution etc and their Articles are as vague as f*ck. Intentionally so, I'd suggest. No specific mention of No Confidence votes or removal of Directors for anything other than crime or mental health issues (may be a go-er). Sorry.
I’d think that is most likely going to be the members . Often the pressure weighs more as time elapses and events deteriorate .Who’s going to force them ,they are a law unto themselves ,Doncaster should have been forced out the door years ago but he’s still there bumbling along as if he’s the perfect man for the job
Well now they have gone and put the cat amongst the pigeons just how can both Haerys and Thistle cope with just five days to reply to the chargees and prepare for the arbitration case at the same time if they don’t delay the date for the charges then the
You knew it was coming.
Taking a different slant on it - could Hearts and Partick claim that they were forced down this route, which would be evidenced if the case does end up back in court, and, as such, any fine incurred should be added to their compensation claim.Perhaps these SFA fines are more about the cabal working to reduce the Hearts / PT claim?
Swapping Mulraney for Petrie always had an ominous look about it. I don't think the timings of these are coincidental.
Arbitration will look for all parties to compromise; we could see Hearts relent to lesser compensation (£8m to £4m?), reduced further with the SFA fine.
If so, the cabal continues ... dare I say, even strengthened ... as they promote the idea they stared down a challenge and guided Scottish Football through all of this.
End result? No real change .. move along .. nothing to see here.
Hope I'm way off. ... and that the Nelms-gate docs are revealed.
I take your point,but your grammar from parliano Glasgow,is wrong, you can't use " are oot" before an adjective,you have to use the verb "sootra" as in ,it's sootra question,it's soottra windae,other than that your bang on mate!You are aware that Hearts and Thistle were demoted after a rigged vote and the fixtures not being completed? To that end, all the "rules" are oot the windae and the SFA can ram their charge right up their corrupt arses.
Depends where in Glasgow you are and who you're taking to. What you're describing sounds more like alkie Glaswegian. Rab C Nesbitt Govan slurring on his words sounding Glaswegian.I take your point,but your grammar from parliano Glasgow,is wrong, you can't use " are oot" before an adjective,you have to use the verb "sootra" as in ,it's sootra question,it's soottra windae,other than that your bang on mate!