johnto
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They have a third monitoring football insider evidentlyDoes Leeds scouting department consist of a scout at Ibrox and another one in South America?
They have a third monitoring football insider evidentlyDoes Leeds scouting department consist of a scout at Ibrox and another one in South America?
I love borna, but...No chance
He would be very hard to replace
I disagree - England always have trouble against skillful, highly technical teams - which Croatia are - I opting for a draw. Croatia will narrowly beat Scotland IMO.I’ve not been impressed with Croatia recently. I think England will beat them comfortably and Scotland may beat them as well. I see the Czechs as a bigger threat than Croatia. Controversial, I know.
I agree they were brutal their last friendly.I’ve not been impressed with Croatia recently. I think England will beat them comfortably and Scotland may beat them as well. I see the Czechs as a bigger threat than Croatia. Controversial, I know.
I agree as well. Strikers are 10 a penny, but not many can play like BB. Our full backs are crucial to the way we play.I couldn't disagree more with your last sentence.
Barisic would be by far the hardest player to replace in terms of style/gameplay.
Doig isn’t even close to standard of borna.Sell Borna. Sign Doig.
Seemples.
Sell Borna. Sign Doig.
Seemples.
I agree.People need to realise, we have to sell.
We’re still running on soft loans, we have a new share issue. There are basic costs to cover.
We need to move the business model forward and that means, selling a star.
Appreciate everyone has opinions on who it should be. I love Borna and Bassey/Doig are no where near his level, but he’s also peak years. Keep him for another year and I’m not convinced you get top money for a 29 year old left back?
I hope he stays, but if he goes, suspect £15m is the top end and a reasonable price.
Sell Borna. Sign Doig.
Seemples.
I don't think it will be as easy as some think to replace Borna, that left peg is up there as one of best just now !
This, in a nutshellI don't think it will be as easy as some think to replace Borna, that left peg is up there as one of best just now !
You don't not from Scotland. If he has a stormer in Euros top is 15 as you say imo. Between 10 and 15 is my guess if we are to sell. Its this summer or never as far as Borna is concerned. If we keep him I would be happy. But if we get 12 million plus for him I wouldn't be sad either if that makes sense.People need to realise, we have to sell.
We’re still running on soft loans, we have a new share issue. There are basic costs to cover.
We need to move the business model forward and that means, selling a star.
Appreciate everyone has opinions on who it should be. I love Borna and Bassey/Doig are no where near his level, but he’s also peak years. Keep him for another year and I’m not convinced you get top money for a 29 year old left back?
I hope he stays, but if he goes, suspect £15m is the top end and a reasonable price.
Easily our best LB since Numam.He’s an outstanding player mate - any replacement would be downgrade.
Yeah just look at how many goals are scored from pinpoint crosses from Borna domestically and in Europe ,it's a signature move . I think he also takes the pressure off Tav!This, in a nutshell
Borna may have to go but replacing him will be a massive job. He contributes so much in the system we play. Either that changes or we’ve scouted exceptionally well for his replacement
When you factor in age the players we could get the 20 plus million for are Kamara,Morelos,Kent. Between 10 and 20 it's Borna, Goldson, Helander probably missed a few out.Even 15 million for Barisic is ambitious. He's 28 who has played in Croatia, Scotland and the Europa League. He has also seemingly lost his spot for Croatia right before the Euros start which won't help. Puchacz who was touted as a option to replace Barisic was sold to a Bundesliga club for 3 million. I understand that the English market is typically who we will sell to and they pay more but people need to temper expectations for fees with certain players. Same with Goldson, regardless of how well they have played clubs aren't going to be offering 15 or 20 million for these players.
I really only think Alfie and Kent for the first part, rightly to wrongly I think we’d settle on about £15m for Kamara.When you factor in age the players we could get the 20 plus million for are Kamara,Morelos,Kent. Between 10 and 20 it's Borna, Goldson, Helander probably missed a few out.
Better than lord Sasa?Easily our best LB since Numam.
Easily, in my opinion of course.Better than lord Sasa?
Not quite there for me yet.Easily, in my opinion of course.
Yeah, a lot of our fans do it.Are we in danger of over valuing our players as a support? The bottom line is players in Scotland have a ceiling when it comes to their value. Tierney went for 25m but we also need to factor in Covid and the impact that has had on the finances of clubs. Daniel Levy was talking today about how it's impacting Spurs budget for next season.
We can say we will get 20m for this player or that player but it's all noise really on our part until we actually bring in that level of fee for a player.
Yeah, a lot of our fans do it.
Just setting themselves up for a fall/moan/rage/rage at the board.
Tierney was also 21 and got a lot of praise off the English media for performances against Man City in the CL.
I think we under value our players.Are we in danger of over valuing our players as a support? The bottom line is players in Scotland have a ceiling when it comes to their value. Tierney went for 25m but we also need to factor in Covid and the impact that has had on the finances of clubs. Daniel Levy was talking today about how it's impacting Spurs budget for next season.
We can say we will get 20m for this player or that player but it's all noise really on our part until we actually bring in that level of fee for a player.
Nail on the head there mate- we make the Champions League groups and players performing at that level increases the value of them.Yeah, a lot of our fans do it.
Just setting themselves up for a fall/moan/rage/rage at the board.
Tierney was also 21 and got a lot of praise off the English media for performances against Man City in the CL.
I think we under value our players.
There's a thread on KDS about six pages absolutely slating Ajer, destroying every part of his game but towards the end of it they are up in arms that he could be leaving for less than 10 million.
I think Alfie and Kent could fetch £18-20m.Yeah proving yourself in the CL is what will bring you to the attention of English Clubs as well. As much as we love The Europa and the likes of Alfie and Kent have excelled there at times it's not really rated in England as the top level.
If Alfie and Kent were to turn in some devastating performances in the CL then that's what will really make the English clubs stand up and take notice.
I think around 15m in the current market is likely to be the top end of what we would get for one of our assets this summer.
Definitely mateNail on the head there mate- we make the Champions League groups and players performing at that level increases the value of them.
It's a tricky call for the recruitment team this summer when bids start to come in -
And they will.
Sign Doig and another experienced LB, no chance we're hopefully going into CL groups and competing in 4 tournaments with Bassey and DoigSell Borna. Sign Doig.
Seemples.
Are we in danger of over valuing our players as a support? The bottom line is players in Scotland have a ceiling when it comes to their value. Tierney went for 25m but we also need to factor in Covid and the impact that has had on the finances of clubs. Daniel Levy was talking today about how it's impacting Spurs budget for next season.
We can say we will get 20m for this player or that player but it's all noise really on our part until we actually bring in that level of fee for a player.
Yes. Papac was a good functioning player. Solid 7 out of 10 most weeks. Borna last 2 years had same consistency but also has days when he's 9 out of 10 and has a delivery and left foot that on its day is imo world class. He is when on it a level or 2 above what Papac could ever be imo.Better than lord Sasa?
£5m was the last quote I read for him, plus add-ons.Sell Borna. Sign Doig.
Seemples.
Majority on here don't support either. Very few actual England fans and most don't follow Scotland. It's not black / white.Not many on here. Majority will be at Hampden Monday
Yes for me, easily.Better than lord Sasa?
I think you're wrong. Kamara could play for a decent team not cannon fodder in any of the top 4 leagues imo easily. He's 1 of the few in Scotland that I think would need next to no adjustment time going to a better league. 20 should be starting bid imo.I really only think Alfie and Kent for the first part, rightly to wrongly I think we’d settle on about £15m for Kamara.
I think he could play in any league myself lol, I just don’t see us getting more than £15m for him.I think you're wrong. Kamara could play for a decent team not cannon fodder in any of the top 4 leagues imo easily. He's 1 of the few in Scotland that I think would need next to no adjustment time going to a better league. 20 should be starting bid imo.
Not to pick on yourself EB, but I’m interested in knowing how you come to that type of conclusion.I really only think Alfie and Kent for the first part, rightly to wrongly I think we’d settle on about £15m for Kamara.
I think that’s the most we’d get offered Tazza, and I think the board would take it seeing as we are yet to make a big sale.Not to pick on yourself EB, but I’m interested in knowing how you come to that type of conclusion.
Yip, I know.I think that’s the most we’d get offered Tazza, and I think the board would take it seeing as we are yet to make a big sale.
Just my opinion of course mate!.
Are we in danger of over valuing our players as a support? The bottom line is players in Scotland have a ceiling when it comes to their value. Tierney went for 25m but we also need to factor in Covid and the impact that has had on the finances of clubs. Daniel Levy was talking today about how it's impacting Spurs budget for next season.
We can say we will get 20m for this player or that player but it's all noise really on our part until we actually bring in that level of fee for a player.
I would bet a full season for Bassey would see him better than Doig!! I’m convinced of that.
The problem is Lenzie they won’t sell him to us, unless it’s a highly inflated price.Bassey's got it all to do.
From what I've seen of Doig he's going places - hopefully to Ibrox.
There is no doubt clubs will be impacted financially by Covid.Are we in danger of over valuing our players as a support? The bottom line is players in Scotland have a ceiling when it comes to their value. Tierney went for 25m but we also need to factor in Covid and the impact that has had on the finances of clubs. Daniel Levy was talking today about how it's impacting Spurs budget for next season.
We can say we will get 20m for this player or that player but it's all noise really on our part until we actually bring in that level of fee for a player.