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Based on what we saw of him last season most would think he's more than ready for a more regular role.What if Gio thinks he’s ready?
Based on what we saw of him last season most would think he's more than ready for a more regular role.What if Gio thinks he’s ready?
Half the players on that list are superstars to be fair
It’s not £6 million. It’s £10 million as per his release deal.If he is going for 6m quid it’s scandalous, and if true seems like the only people the club are good at getting money from is the fans!
But we are agreed numerous players over 27 go for decent fees then? Not "rare" at all reallyThere are 20 odd examples of players who are on another level to Joe Aribo going for those kinds of fees.
You should've stopped there - that's more than enough to prove to anyone Aribo could go for silly money in a couple of years time.£27m Chris Wood
Plenty players over 27/28 have moved for big fees. That's a few of them.
100% disagree. We will make the 10 million release clause plus have the potential to make more down the line. Crucially, we get money in now to get replacements in. Your model is very risky, could leave us with nothing and no money for a replacement.I'd wait another 4-5 weeks since we're at the start of the transfer window. Do you disagree with that?
That’s all fine mate. I see where you’re coming from and he’s certainly not going to play 72 games this year.Then he's the manager and I'm just a poster on Follow Follow %^*& sakes. What are you trying to get at? I'm saying I think its ridiculous and far too much pressure on a young talent to ask him to step up and fill Aribo's boots next year.
I'm not sure we are on the same page here. Is this with reference to us paying a fee for Colak (which I'm fine with), or is it about the fact that people are obsessed with a sell-on for Joe Aribo when the reality is he is highly unlikely to go for tens of millions in a couple of years time aged 28 odds?But we are agreed numerous players over 27 go for decent fees then? Not "rare" at all really
It still amounts to a guaranteed £10m *plus* a sell on fee.So if we agree a £10m upfront fee then I have no problem?
It's pretty clear that I'm objecting to £6m plus add ons
It is absolute nonsense to suggest that Aribo can't make a bigger move from Soton.
With our strikers, first place is up for grabs as they are hardly setting scoring records we need to be clinical upfront.I don’t disagree we should sign a striker but wouldn’t be spending the best part of £2m on a 3rd choice option personally.
Regarding CB, Goldson, Souttar and Bassey are the only 3 I’d be counting as CB’s ahead of next season. Even at that, I’d rather Bassey at LB. Helander is too injury prone, Katic isn’t good enough, King too young to rely on in a tough position and Sands isn’t good enough to be a CB for Rangers (might make it in midfield). Defo need another quality CB option.
Where has the 6 mill plus add on stuff come from?So if we agree a £10m upfront fee then I have no problem?
It's pretty clear that I'm objecting to £6m plus add ons
Personally not bothered about a % sell-on. Of course it is prudent to have it in any deal, but I'm confused at why some people appear to be using it as justification for accepting an offer that is well below his market value, when the reality is that Aribo is unlikely to be going for vast transfer fees as he approaches his late 20sIt still amounts to a guaranteed £10m *plus* a sell on fee.
Most transfers aren't the full fee up front. No real need for objections here to be fair.
I'm not sure we are on the same page here. Is this with reference to us paying a fee for Colak (which I'm fine with), or is it about the fact that people are obsessed with a sell-on for Joe Aribo when the reality is he is highly unlikely to go for tens of millions in a couple of years time aged 28 odds?
I don't think that's what's been said from the journalists. Add ons are certainly not guaranteed.It still amounts to a guaranteed £10m *plus* a sell on fee.
Most transfers aren't the full fee up front. No real need for objections here to be fair.
Chris Wood a better footballer than Aribo? His name was at the top of that list.There are 20 odd examples of players who are on another level to Joe Aribo going for those kinds of fees.
Katic could come back and be a better player and no one knows that, would I spend 2-3 million which gets you a gamble or stick with Katic who is more than good enough to play against the bottom half dross in the SPL! Yes of course he is.I don’t disagree we should sign a striker but wouldn’t be spending the best part of £2m on a 3rd choice option personally.
Regarding CB, Goldson, Souttar and Bassey are the only 3 I’d be counting as CB’s ahead of next season. Even at that, I’d rather Bassey at LB. Helander is too injury prone, Katic isn’t good enough, King too young to rely on in a tough position and Sands isn’t good enough to be a CB for Rangers (might make it in midfield). Defo need another quality CB option.
A guess from Fab Romano on Twitter.Where has the 6 mill plus add on stuff come from?
Fabrizio Romano tweeted £6m but posted £10m on Facebook.Where has the 6 mill plus add on stuff come from?
some players do. they're a level way above Aribo, who IMO will be unlikely to be making £20m plus moves in 2 years time after a couple of good seasons with southampton, aged approx 28.We shall leave it then, someone made the point that players over 27 "rarely" go for big money, I think thats been disproved many times over now
We don’t need to make money on every single player.My only concern is his age - at 34 there wont be much sell on potential...
Can we force them to sign?
Romano said £6m.Where has the 6 mill plus add on stuff come from?
I think the 'deadwood' will likely be moved on nearer the end of the windowGoing off topic from the resident doomsday lovers, I’m pretty surprised there hasn’t been more outgoings.
I know you’d assume Gio would want to assess some of the players he hasn’t worked with before, but still, I’d have thought the analysis and stuff would have sufficed.
If we’d have signed someone like Botheim I’d agree. Colak isn’t coming in as first choice. He’s an Itten replacement.With our strikers, first place is up for grabs as they are hardly setting scoring records we need to be clinical upfront.
We have to bring quality in this window rather than squad fillers.
We’re not quite at that stage, surely?Is it too hard for posters to understand that the money taken in last season (Paterson, Europe, Gerrard etc) is being used towards the running of the club. Money for signings is coming from sales. Itten money is funding the Colak signing. Future signings (hopefully!) will come from Aribo sale. Add in that we have been signing (potentially) future stars, this is model we have been crying out for for years. Yes, it's not been perfect and it's going to take time to master it. Like Ajax. But the board have at least, have a vision and are not throwing money about we don't have.
Calm down Pete, Aribo is a Nigerian International, he is one of our best players and a scorer in a Europa League final - he doesn't have an extra year on his contract though and £10m total is a good return for £300k.Are we really bending over and accepting £6m + add ons for Aribo? A Nigerian international, one of our best players and scorer in Europa final? Easily a £20m player with an extra year on his contract?
But hey not to worry. Accept the derisory offer Rangers, we the fans will continue to plug the funding gap with even more expensive Europa League tickets this season and 48 quid training tops.
'Justification for accepting an offer that is well below his market value'Personally not bothered about a % sell-on. Of course it is prudent to have it in any deal, but I'm confused at why some people appear to be using it as justification for accepting an offer that is well below his market value, when the reality is that Aribo is unlikely to be going for vast transfer fees as he approaches his late 20s
Why would Aribo sign a new deal, when he’s intending to leave? After all, it would have been his camp that made the release clause a deal breaker. Why would a team bid for him, when they can get him significantly cheaper in a year?No but sell them if they don't.
But did we even ask the question? By the sounds of it we didn't.
Colak is one sorted which leaves someone to replace Aribo and then a RW which we need to spend 10 - 15 million on.
Katic isn’t good enough for Rangers. Nice big guy but not of the quality required.Katic could come back and be a better player and no one knows that, would I spend 2-3 million which gets you a gamble or stick with Katic who is more than good enough to play against the bottom half dross in the SPL! Yes of course he is.
Helander could fully recover, Jack could fully recover etc, Hagi could recover fully but that’s purely luck and down to the medical team to get them their but we do not need to spend on our defence or defensive midfield area.
Goal scoring is out issue and that’s 3 players
Colak is one sorted which leaves someone to replace Aribo and then a RW which we need to spend 10 - 15 million on.
If after selling Paterson, Aribo and reaching a European final then it would be disappointing to say the least and would show a severe lack of ambition by the board.
BUT I will wait until the window closes before I start flapping
someone who played 50+ games for us to be replaced by someone who played about 5 games for us.We’ve got a replacement in the club for Aribo already and he cost 0. Lowry
The issue a lot of people seem to have is that it is a guaranteed £6m. not a guaranteed £10.m'Justification for accepting an offer that is well below his market value'
He had a £10m clause in his contract, so we couldn't have gotten more than £10m so we got £10m. What's the issue here?
Was only joking about the confusion over his age earlierWe don’t need to make money on every single player.
People like yourself you mean?The issue a lot of people seem to have is that it is a guaranteed £6m. not a guaranteed £10.m
Nah we're getting £6m up front for one of our best players who's just scored in a European final. We may be getting add-ons but these will be dependent on appearances and other caveats which are not guaranteed. Meanwhile same club is paying Man City DOUBLE for a player who's played two cup games in his entire career.
Some folk like you are absolutely dying to defend everything we do because you're such a bigger and better fan than the rest of us, that's great.
I call it as I see it. The boy is worth a lot more than his release clause, so we should AT LEAST be getting the £10m up front.
To accept only £6m upfront is bad business. Call me names and insult my intelligence all you want, it doesn't change what it is.
Aye - I'm sure nobody at the club asked Aribo, Kent or Morelos if they wanted to sign new contracts last summer, or at any point since then. Honest to %^*&No but sell them if they don't.
But did we even ask the question? By the sounds of it we didn't.