11huistra11
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There’s a lot of squares on here eh
Grow up.There’s a lot of squares on here eh
There's an easy answer to that mate.This is nonsense.
It may show DIRECT stats but doesn't show the criminality involved to get it.
All the thieving, lying and cheating. Violence from suppliers to small time dealers etc. It is comparing apples with pears
Your idea of how to improve society is to send people off to death camps????
The only point I've seen you make is that people should be forced into a lepar colony for choosing to enjoy different things in life than you do.
Let's put it this way, right now are drugs legal? On the whole, no.
Do we have a high number of people currently using drugs in this country? Yes, ubdoubtably.
So the current system of prohibition does not prevent drug use. That is an absolute, stone cold fact which is indisputable.
Why are you so against reforms?
Why not create a mature environment where people are given the knowledge to choose what substances, if any, to enjoy in moderation.
Surely you can admit that drugs aren't going away?
You sound absolutely prehistoric with your post mate. Addicts are people too and mostly victims of circumstance. Maybe try reading up on it and you may change your opinion. Are you aware the vast majority of cases of people who end up as drug addicts or indeed alcoholics were abused as children and turn to substances as a coping mechanism. Na didn't think so, fűck them they're just scum ehNo it’s to apply capital punishment to those who commit certain designated crimes. Something a fair portion of the world does. I suggested removing addicts from normal society and segregation into male female and leaving them on uninhabited islands off the west coast. It was just a radical plan an idea as the current set up doesn’t work and it costs the ‘majority’ tax to support them. Is it the answer probably not but the current solution is not to have a solution.
Mate I think it was views like yours we were fighting in WW2.You have your view and I mine we won’t agree not ever. You can win the war on drugs or criminal gangs but such a war requires measures that the snow flake generation wouldn’t like. However such tactics won WW2 so apply that to the sources the suppliers and the users and there is a solution.
On the actual point of the thread what is the point in going to watch the Rangers when your off your face on anything I’ve never understood that completely pointless in my view.
Mate I think it was views like yours we were fighting in WW2.
Also I'd imagine it helps in recent years.
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I seem to recall one side of that conflict's heavy use of segregation camps for those deemed inferior.Seriously? what utter drivel. I’ll leave you to it if that’s your level.
See post 303 for my cartel free utopia.
If you're concerned about gangsters selling drugs the only way to stop that is to legalise.
That's true but if end users can purchase drugs without risk of criminality from licenses outlets, the demand in the UK at least for illegally sourced drugs falls off a cliff.It's a billion-dollar business - the cartels are not going to simply step aside. It's gone too far. Legislation in the UK might curtail it a little but it's not going to have any impact on other nations.
That's true but if end users can purchase drugs without risk of criminality from licenses outlets, the demand in the UK at least for illegally sourced drugs falls off a cliff.
If more countries followed suit it would flow up stream eventually.
We can only tackle one issue at a time and it would certainly solve a lot issues here.
Of course its not a cure all, the person that comes up with that will be up the Nobel Peace Prize!I think it's a little naive to believe legalisation will cure all ills as one of your earlier posts suggest. Illegality and lack of access curtails consumption. Remove those and there will be an impact on society.
Do you think pricing will be similar? Who's selling it at 11pm? The restrictions will still allow for illegal market.
As an aside, people might be surprised to know that the UK is the biggest manufacturer of legal cocaine.
Grow up.
I was half way through typing a response but theres really no point I don't think. Yourself and others have presented facts and knowledge on the subject, and him along with others have continued to use the same pish statements over and over again.
Like debating with a brick wall.
Sorry but the amount of posters on here trivialising Class A Drug use at a football match or general is frankly disturbing.
It's illegal for a start, that's without even discussing the effects it has on people's bodies and add into that the misery it'd brought to millions upon millions of familes worldwide I think it's hardly something to brag about or think your big and hard. I'm guessing you've no responsibility like a child or that.
As well imagine walking into a toilet at the football with your child and some coked up wee fcker is powdering his nose in front of them. Last thing he'd worry about is being caught. His head would be rattled off the wall.
Assault is also illegalSorry but the amount of posters on here trivialising Class A Drug use at a football match or general is frankly disturbing.
It's illegal for a start, that's without even discussing the effects it has on people's bodies and add into that the misery it'd brought to millions upon millions of familes worldwide I think it's hardly something to brag about or think your big and hard. I'm guessing you've no responsibility like a child or that.
As well imagine walking into a toilet at the football with your child and some coked up wee fcker is powdering his nose in front of them. Last thing he'd worry about is being caught. His head would be rattled off the wall.
Now you're suggesting assaulting someone in front of your child?Sorry but the amount of posters on here trivialising Class A Drug use at a football match or general is frankly disturbing.
It's illegal for a start, that's without even discussing the effects it has on people's bodies and add into that the misery it'd brought to millions upon millions of familes worldwide I think it's hardly something to brag about or think your big and hard. I'm guessing you've no responsibility like a child or that.
As well imagine walking into a toilet at the football with your child and some coked up wee fcker is powdering his nose in front of them. Last thing he'd worry about is being caught. His head would be rattled off the wall.
Sorry but the amount of posters on here trivialising Class A Drug use at a football match or general is frankly disturbing.
It's illegal for a start, that's without even discussing the effects it has on people's bodies and add into that the misery it'd brought to millions upon millions of familes worldwide I think it's hardly something to brag about or think your big and hard. I'm guessing you've no responsibility like a child or that.
As well imagine walking into a toilet at the football with your child and some coked up wee fcker is powdering his nose in front of them. Last thing he'd worry about is being caught. His head would be rattled off the wall.
Assault is also illegal
Now you're suggesting assaulting someone in front of your child?
To clarify, open drug use in front of kids is also totally unacceptable.
Hardly suggesting it ffs.
Drug use in general is unacceptable tbh. It's sad that people need to use Illegal drugs to be a person they can't be normally. As I've stated loads of times they need a serious look at their lives.
a lot of people use drugs in the same way people use alcohol, social events, have a good time etc its not to make them a person ffs
you seem to have a very outdated view on drugs and its rather sad. Concentration camps,now saying you'll smash heads of walls... keyboard warrior indeed.
What do I need help for. Read what I said. It is also illegal.Aww ffs wind your neck in.
I was saying it as in how angry I'd be. Didn't literally mean I'd do it. But you defend drug use at a football match.
You need help.
Your idea of how to improve society is to send people off to death camps????
a lot of people use drugs in the same way people use alcohol, social events, have a good time etc its not to make them a person ffs
you seem to have a very outdated view on drugs and its rather sad. Concentration camps,now saying you'll smash heads of walls... keyboard warrior indeed.
Like I said earlier if someone needs to shove Colombia's finest filled with aspirin and god knows what else up their noses at 3pm in the afternoon or in fact ever at all then they seriously need to re-evaluate their lives.
As much as you know every pathetic drug user and how their pathetic drug use makes them feel better about their pathetic lives.Yeah cause you know me eh tit
Yeah cause you know me eh tit
grow up you absolute throbber.
Think you should grow up needing to take illegal drugs to make you a person you clearly ain't.
I'd say only one person is a throbber and it ain't me.
What a sad life you lead.
I've found over the years that variety and everything in moderation is the most satisfying way to live your life.Think you should grow up needing to take illegal drugs to make you a person you clearly ain't.
I'd say only one person is a throbber and it ain't me.
What a sad life you lead.
You're not covering yourself in glory here mateThink you should grow up needing to take illegal drugs to make you a person you clearly ain't.
I'd say only one person is a throbber and it ain't me.
What a sad life you lead.
If yer needing to go tanked up on coke to a 1pm or 3pm kick off you have got some serious f*cking problems.
I reckon most folk take illegal drugs because they have a great time while on them, that was certainly why I dabbled years ago, I just enjoy alcohol these days.
The one point I totally agree with and everyone on the thread seems to be on the same level with is that's it's totally unacceptable subjecting minors to casual drug taking, stick to the cubicles lads.
You're not covering yourself in glory here mate
Best is this isbyou aren’t jokingJust watch me bro
Where did I say that? Its reprehensible behaviour however so is smashing people's heads off walls. You ought to learn how to read peoples posts before making a fool of yourselfComing from someone who thinks taking drugs at a football match is acceptable i think I'll pass on the opinion of yourself about me.
Or why even take it a football match at all ffs mate.
People that need to do that need to look at their lives.
Where did I say that? Its reprehensible behaviour however so is smashing people's heads off walls. You ought to learn how to read peoples posts before making a fool of yourself
Most people under 40 do it, probably a lot over 40 too.
The idea that people who do are some sort of scumbags is ridiculous and simply wrong. It's rife amongst the poor, rich, whoever. People like it, and as mentioned previously on this thread most people are absolutely fine on it and don't have a problem.
Surely you'd be better having your tax not paying for the fight against it, make them legal and everyone wins. You're not paying tax for any aspect of drugs trade and people will be free to do as they wish.
I'd say there's a fair degree of radicalism involved in wanting to either bounce heads off walls or set up Auschwitz on the Isle of Skye.The folk calling for the legalization of drugs are always so radical about it.
From a practical point of view, it’s completely unworkable.
I'd say there's a fair degree of radicalism involved in wanting to either bounce heads off walls or set up Auschwitz on the Isle of Skye.
I'm genuinely interested in how you quantify it being unworkable?
Mamba loyalGoing by the current atmosphere we have a serious spice problem.
Considering there are a fair amount of conservative attitudes in the UK, such attitudes would require erosion before all drugs are suddenly legalized. Otherwise, there would be major conflict preventing the policy from being effective.
Also, what exactly are the parameters going to be? Is it complete legalization or just decriminalsiation? These issues would need resolved.
Would it lead to demands for more advanced recovery facilities, and what implication would this have on the health service and tax payer?
Could it lead to destigmatisation to the extent that drug use becomes more socially acceptable and users more brazen? What impact would this have on younger people if drug taking was to be even less taboo than it already is - more usage I’d predict.
This is just scratching the surface. It’s a complete midfield riddled with uncertainties.
I would argue those people need to get with the times, societal growth shouldn't be on hold because of dinosaurs with archaic opinions.Considering there are a fair amount of conservative attitudes in the UK, such attitudes would require erosion before all drugs are suddenly legalized. Otherwise, there would be major conflict preventing the policy from being effective.
Also, what exactly are the parameters going to be? Is it complete legalization or just decriminalsiation? These issues would need resolved.
Would it lead to demands for more advanced recovery facilities, and what implication would this have on the health service and tax payer?
Could it lead to destigmatisation to the extent that drug use becomes more socially acceptable and users more brazen? What impact would this have on younger people if drug taking was to be even less taboo than it already is - more usage I’d predict.
This is just scratching the surface. It’s a complete midfield riddled with uncertainties.